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Car stolen at gunpoint recovered

WINNIPEG -- A car stolen from a couple at gunpoint early Saturday has been recovered.

Winnipeg Police recovered the Chevrolet Cobalt at the corner of McPhillips Stret and Logan Avenue Sunday morning.

The 23-year-old female and 31-year-old male were at the rear of a residence in the first 100 block of Keewatin Street when two males, one armed with a gun, approached.

The victims were not injured.

city.desk@freepress.mb.ca

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Updated on Sunday, February 7, 2010 at 11:45 AM CST:
Vehicle recovered Sunday morning

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Debbadoo -> Chumley....AMEN....the only Club I ever see on a car in No Dak is on ours when we go down there....just a habit I guess...

It's not only North Dakota, when I was out east in Ontario I had to actually explain to people what a club and an immobilizer was.

riskybusiness76: "...Like they do in Texas."

You mean THE Texas? Where there is, according to official State of Texas statistics, one murder every 6 hours and 25 minutes, one rape every hour, one burglary every two minutes, one larceny/theft every 48 seconds, one robbery every 14 minutes, one aggravated assault every 7 minutes, one motor vehicle theft every 6 minutes, one violent crime every 4 minutes, one property crime every 33 seconds. Or how about those 1,373 murders in 2008? Or 8,004 rapes? Or 37,757 robberies? Even with the ability to carry, they have more murders per capita than we do.

Yeah, personal carry sure works there. Yes, courts are way too lenient. But if carrying weapons was the answer, they'd have discovered it in Texas, no?

There isn't much we can do with these idiots until our Gov't changes the laws to protect all of the honest people of Canada.

Oh, I foregot, our Gov't is on Holidays and don't care about working for the betterment of Canadians.

What a joke and I don't think they'll do anything until one of their own is killed or someone starts to take the law into their own hands.

If all of you look in Hansard the record of the the gov. in Manitoba You will see that the NDP said when the PC party was in Gov. that they (the NPD ) would get tough on crime http://www.gov.mb.ca/legislature/hansard/
Well you need to click on a date and then go into oral Questions and then read how the NDP talked the talk but today don't walk the walk

Thanks to MPI for escalating a problem with immobilizers instead of nipping it in the bud. Car jacking is a much better way of doing things, now we have more lives on the line everytime.. Moving the problem around instead of getting at the root is never a solution and MPI knew that before immobliizers were even installed. Where has accountability for my own actions concept gone? Our governments are the worst offenders and we wonder why there are problems. Go Figure.....duh!!!!!

A couple whose car was stolen at gunpoint early Saturday has been recovered

Glad to hear the couple was recovered....Gee do you have proofreaders anymore...??

Stuff can be done and is being done in cities throughout the country:

http://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/res/cp/res/2008-pcpp-eng.aspx

Even in Winnipeg:

http://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/media/nr/2009/nr20090424-4-eng.aspx

These programs target "at-risk" youth, which is a second best solution in my opinion. We should be preventing kids from ever being "at-risk", or alternatively consider all kids to be "at-risk."

This means being good parents ourselves, and if we have the time, money or energy, contribute to existing, successful organizations like:

http://www.wbgc.mb.ca/index.asp

and

http://www.bigwinnipeg.com/en/Home/default.aspx

None of us like this stuff happening in our community, so lets roll up our sleeves and get to work in fixing the problems.

We also have to hold our politicians' feet to the flame on this. For too long, political leaders on both sides have taken the easy way out with their rhetoric on this issue, with all sorts of 'tough on crime' BS that won't make our community better or safer 20 years from now.

To put things in perspective, our civic leaders are planning on putting in more money for a police helicopter than for those crime preventions strategies pointed to in the link above.

What's our priority? Feel good easy solutions that promise fleeting short term gains, or sensible 20-year-long strategies that require citizens to put in some hard work.

Everything in life that's worth something takes hard work. That includes a safe community.

If you remove incarceration from the list of instruments for dealing with offenders, what are you left with? At the very least, you are left with only experimental fixes. Going to jail and being told there was a 2-in-3 chance of returning was enough to dissaude me from getting myself locked up again. For kids with FASD, there's not much you can do except institutionalize them. Sociology, in its current left of left configuration, has no ability to deal with sociopaths. The Left in general finds fault with society rather than the offender, especially when it comes to aboriginal offenders. The belief that jails make better criminals is an example of how the left has emasculated justice. Build super-max prisons where convicts can't congregate like they do now and you won't have criminals teaching each other how to be better criminals.

Until the reserve system and indeed Canada's structural racialism are addressed, generations of criminals will continue indefinitely. Critical analysis of the kind of socialization that prevails on many reserves needs to be undertaken, especially in regards to remote reserves. If a child grows up with zero opportunities in an isolated location, what kind of healthy social development is possible? The highest birth rates in Manitoba occur on remote reserves. In other words, more kids than ever are growing up in the most desperate conditions. A child who grows up with the idea that they are unloved is capable of anything.

With respect to comments by Chumley, Jonah and Rob: we have to go back farther than "socio-economic factors" and "child poverty." Rob heads in the right direction with, "stereotype discrimination." Keep asking "Why?" 'til you get to the nub. [I think Jonah sees this in his advice to "nudge" politicians, 'though I feel a nudge is far too gentle!]

I think, speaking in generalities, that Joe Public fails to differentiate between status and non-status FN's. Reserve residency provides a very strong incentive toward a non-contributory or non-productive lifestyle, and provides a basis for "stereotype discrimination," and all get painted with the same brush. Thus, any "solution" must deal with the root cause(s): the reserve system, the Indian Act and thence the resultant Indian Industry. There would then be a starting point or as Jonah put it "...see opportunity in their future," and eventually - 60 years minimum, with a well thought out plan and all stakeholders on board - everything would "even out".

maybe the inncocent people need to carry guns themselves, like in texas. and maybe, if one or two of these punks had to face the consequence of being killed or shot at, as they try to commit their crimes, things would change.

seeing as how the justice system has been unable to affect this change, maybe guns for protection would.

there are many people i"m sure, who, if being robbed in such way, would shoot to kill. is that so wrong? it's your car, your life?

or maybe we can continue to complain and wait for the gov't to someting? or, maybe just do nothing at all?

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