Winnipeg Free Press - PRINT EDITION
Transitway route on the map
But city has no money for project
The second phase of the Southwest Transitway will likely jog around Fort Garry residential neighbourhoods, as Winnipeg Transit is poised to recommend the dogleg option over a more direct route closer to Pembina Highway.
At a closed-door seminar on Friday, city councillors were told the results of an alignment study that concluded there are more logistical, financial and transportation benefits to completing the Southwest Transitway by running it west through the Parker lands and then south along a Manitoba Hydro corridor.
In April, the city opened the transitway's first phase, a 3.6-kilometre bus corridor between Queen Elizabeth Way near The Forks and Jubilee Avenue near Pembina Highway. Winnipeg Transit enlisted Dillon Consulting to help decide upon an alignment for a second phase that will eventually extend the corridor to the University of Manitoba's Fort Garry campus.
Three options were considered: the six-kilometre Letellier route, which would run alongside a rail line west of Pembina; and two variations of a seven-kilometre Manitoba Hydro route that would run west through Parker and then south along the Hydro corridor that separates the Fort Garry Industrial Park from the Beaumont and Maybank neighbourhoods.
Councillors were told the dogleg option is superior because it would involve less traffic disruption, higher operating speeds and no need to relocate the CN Letellier line. The western route also has more room for new housing developments that could generate property taxes to offset construction costs.
"Time-wise, they're suggesting it's almost a wash," said council property director Jeff Browaty (North Kildonan). Concerns about the potential for reduced transit service for businesses and apartments along Pembina Highway were tempered by the fact a large stretch of the Letellier option would also place the corridor 400 metres west of Pembina Highway.
"We're not going to be discontinuing transit service on Pembina," he said, adding it is too soon for riders to grow concerned about service changes resulting from a transitway that currently has no funding source.
"This is very much a futile discussion at this point," said Browaty, referring to the absence of a funding deal between the city and the province. "The money is not there and even if it was there, I'm not sure (the Southwest Transitway's second phase) is a priority for us."
Browaty said the city may want to focus its rapid-transit attention on beginning an East Transitway that would connect downtown to Transcona. Decades of city transportation studies have recommended this link as the city's No. 2 rapid-transit priority, after the completion of the Southwest Transitway.
Council is committed to completing the second phase of the southwest corridor in three years. The selection of an alignment for the second phase would allow detailed design work to proceed. But there is little cash available for construction, as a previous federal-provincial offer of $126 million toward the project was withdrawn after Mayor Sam Katz declined the cash, noting the total project cost would be at least $270 million.
Katz subsequently sent the Selinger government a letter suggesting a variety of new revenue streams that could help the city fund infrastructure projects such as rapid transit.
"We sent all these great ideas for the province to look at and explore to fund the rapid transit. And each and every time we got the same answer: No, no, no, no, no," Katz said last week. "There is no real money on the table."
Katz said the city will not borrow money to pay for the Southwest Transitway's second phase, noting the city borrowed to pay for the first phase and also borrowed the cash for the province's share.
"We're the ones who put up the money for the province and they are still paying us back and it's debt on our books," Katz said.
Local Government Minister Ron Lemieux said Friday the province is frustrated with the city's position.
A rapid-transit choice
The pros and cons of the two alignment possibilities for the second leg of the Southwest Transitway, which would extend the existing busway from Jubilee Avenue to the University of Manitoba campus. Both routes would be the same south of the Sugar Beet lands at Chevrier Boulevard:
1. Manitoba Hydro 'dogleg'
Route: West from Pembina Highway through the Parker neighbourhood, then south along the Manitoba Hydro right-of-way that separates the Fort Garry Industrial Park from the Beaumont and Maybank neighbourhoods
Length: Seven to 7.5 kilometres, depending on whether it runs straight through the vacant Parker lands or loops around the northern end of the wooded area
Width: 753 to 774 metres, including room for a bike-and-pedestrian path
Maximum speed: 80 km/h
New infrastructure required: One bridge over Pembina Highway and a pair of rail underpasses near Jubilee Avenue; one long rail overpass at Sugar Beet lands south of Chevrier Boulevard; five new rapid-transit stations
Street crossings: Four in total. New traffic signals required in Parker lands and at McGillivray Boulevard; transit-priority gates required at Clarence Avenue and Chevrier Boulevard
Transit service impact on immediate area: Less service for existing businesses and apartments near Pembina Highway. Feeder connection possibilities for Linden Woods and Whyte Ridge
Land complications: Negotiations required for access to Manitoba Hydro right-of-way. The route would also require protection of major water and sewer pipes
Natural habitat impact: Would run through high-quality aspen parkland in Parker area
Development impact: Potential for residential and commercial development along new corridor, which could generate tax dollars to help pay for the route
2. Letellier option
Route: South along CN Letellier line, west of Pembina Highway
Length: Six kilometres
Width: 172 metres. No room for bike-and-pedestrian path
Maximum speed: 60 km/h north of McGillivray Boulevard, 80 km/h south of McGillvray
New infrastructure required: One bridge over Pembina Highway near Jubilee Avenue
Street crossings: Nine in total. New traffic signal required at McGillivray Boulevard; transit priority gates required at Byng Place, Windermere Avenue, Somerset Avenue, Waterford Avenue, Southwood Avenue, Waller Avenue, Clarence Avenue and Chevrier Boulevard
Transit service impact on immediate area: Improved service near Pembina Highway
Land complications: Negotiations required to relocate CN Letellier line nine metres west. Potential for expropriating residential properties, with high land-acquisition costs
Natural habitat impact: None
Development impact: Minimal, as there's little room for new construction along this route
-- source: Winnipeg Transit, public open houses on Stage 2 alignment for Southwest Transitway
Republished from the Winnipeg Free Press print edition October 29, 2012 B1
Fact Check
Have you found an error, or know of something we’ve missed in one of our stories? Please use the form below and let us know.
More Latest News
- Back to Top
- Return to Latest News
More Latest News
(1 of 10 articles for today)
Another big protest as Brazilians lament high cost of living, lack of good public services
6:13 AM 0Poll
Most Popular Latest News
- Young girl found dead on railway tracks
- Court told driver hysterical after vehicle fatally hit highway worker
- Child in critical condition after West End crash
- Winnipeg man given 2-year sentence for coma-inducing 'sucker punch'
- Man convicted of drunk driving in Henderson pile-up
- Teen on train tracks from York Landing
- HSC Home Lottery winners announced
- McMunn & Yates absorbs five McDiarmid locations
- California 'Night Stalker' serial killer Richard Ramirez dies at 53
- At 55, I'm wise to what's real in life
- Young girl found dead on railway tracks
- HSC Home Lottery winners announced
- Winnipeg man given 2-year sentence for coma-inducing 'sucker punch'
- Child in critical condition after West End crash
- Court told driver hysterical after vehicle fatally hit highway worker
- RCMP say woman deliberately murdered her sister with her car
- Toronto woman dead in rural Manitoba ATV wreck
- Manitoba restaurant stops selling giant hamburger "for obvious reasons"
- Bomber fans wowed by new stadium
- Portage Ave. stretch re-opens after Friday-night bomb scare
- Young girl found dead on railway tracks
- Man dies after being pulled from vehicle submerged in Winnipeg retention pond
- Hailstorm wreaks havoc on Winnipeg garden centre
- 87-year-old woman tells jurors, 'Somebody had to stand up to' Donald Trump
- Two people killed in crash north of Winnipeg
- Two Winnipeg teens identified as victims of crash
- HSC Home Lottery winners announced
- Father, daughter seriously injured in ATV crash
- Chiropractor guilty of sexually assaulting, beating ex-girlfriend
- Filipino singer Charice comes out as lesbian; Catholic official says she's in identity crisis
- At 55, I'm wise to what's real in life
- Basic arithmetic back in class
- Craig Ferguson adds second show
- McMunn & Yates absorbs five McDiarmid locations
- Teens can join Let It Out Summer Rock Camp
- Daycare-subsidy rules bad for business
- City-wide average mosquito count drops
- Scientists meet to discuss weird British weather, say soggy summers likely for a few years
- New Flyer awarded Atlanta bus contract
- Suspect arrested after North End sex assault
- App could give Winnipeggers chance to report bad parking, get paid
- At 55, I'm wise to what's real in life
- Sobeys gobbles up Safeway
- Priest kept silent about accusations against Storheim, court hears
- Manitoba restaurant stops selling giant hamburger "for obvious reasons"
- Basic arithmetic back in class
- Geothermal heat coming to some Manitoba First Nations
- Spiralling cost of land raises new home prices
- Rogers and MTS announce new network sharing agreement
- $110-K worth of nickel plates stolen from Thompson mine
- New owner for lumber stores
- Chiropractor guilty of sexually assaulting, beating ex-girlfriend
- Grocer Joe Cantor dies at 88
- Door openers being used to break into garages, police warn
- Province formally opens Mental Health Crisis Response Centre
- Hailstorm wreaks havoc on Winnipeg garden centre
- New rules let customers cancel phone contracts without penalty after two years
- App could give Winnipeggers chance to report bad parking, get paid
- At 55, I'm wise to what's real in life
- MTS to sell Allstream to Egyptian investment group, focus on Manitoba market
Ads by Google











You can comment on most stories on winnipegfreepress.com. You can also agree or disagree with other comments. All you need to do is be a Winnipeg Free Press print or e-edition subscriber to join the conversation and give your feedback.
You can comment on most stories on winnipegfreepress.com. You can also agree or disagree with other comments. All you need to do is be a Winnipeg Free Press print or e-edition subscriber to join the conversation and give your feedback.
Have Your Say
New to commenting? Check out our Frequently Asked Questions.
Have Your Say
Comments are open to Winnipeg Free Press print or e-edition subscribers only. why?
Login SubscribeHave Your Say
Comments are open to Winnipeg Free Press Subscribers only. why?
SubscribeThe Winnipeg Free Press does not necessarily endorse any of the views posted. By submitting your comment, you agree to our Terms and Conditions. These terms were revised effective April 16, 2010.