Axworthy ‘best person’ for rail relocation study: Kinew Two-year probe backed by business, social planners, First Nations

Premier Wab Kinew and former federal cabinet minister Lloyd Axworthy want Manitobans to think big when it comes to the decades-old discussion about moving rail lines out of Winnipeg.

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Premier Wab Kinew and former federal cabinet minister Lloyd Axworthy want Manitobans to think big when it comes to the decades-old discussion about moving rail lines out of Winnipeg.

While launching a rail relocation feasibility study Tuesday, the pair pointed out that initial plans for The Forks — a former rail site in the heart of the city — and the Red River Floodway were met with naysaying or concerns about high costs.

“It just shows what you can do with some imagination and some creativity, and some real courage by governments themselves,” Axworthy said about The Forks.

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Lloyd Axworthy speaks after Premier Wab Kinew announced that his government had selected Axworthy to lead a study to determine the feasibility of relocating Winnipeg’s rail lines, Tuesday morning.
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Lloyd Axworthy speaks after Premier Wab Kinew announced that his government had selected Axworthy to lead a study to determine the feasibility of relocating Winnipeg’s rail lines, Tuesday morning.

Converted rail land could be used for housing or open spaces, while rationalization could create advantages for rail companies and strengthen Manitoba’s position as a major transport hub, he said at a news conference next to the Canadian Pacific Kansas City rail yards, which are beneath the Slaw Rebchuk Bridge that connects Salter and Isabel streets.

Axworthy was Canada’s transport minister in the 1980s when a federal Liberal government negotiated the transfer of the former Canadian National Rail yards to become what is now The Forks.

Kinew has tapped him to lead a study that will look at the feasibility of rail relocation in the capital region. The Manitoba government set aside $200,000 for the study in April’s budget.

Expected to take two years, the study will determine which lines or yards can realistically be relocated and at what estimated cost, while exploring the potential social and economic effect, said Kinew.

Axworthy said he is “fairly optimistic” the study will produce “good conversations” with rail company executives. The study will include public consultations.

Canadian Pacific Kansas City Ltd. spokeswoman Rebecca Stephen said any study must be comprehensive, and involve railroads, shippers and industries, all levels of government and federal regulators.

The company’s rail network through Winnipeg is an essential part of integrated supply chains in North America, she said.

Tracking rail yard debate

While the subject of rail relocation has been around for decades in Winnipeg, a train derailment and the closure of the Arlington Street Bridge in 2023 set the wheels in motion for the study commissioned by the Manitoba government.

While the subject of rail relocation has been around for decades in Winnipeg, a train derailment and the closure of the Arlington Street Bridge in 2023 set the wheels in motion for the study commissioned by the Manitoba government.

Previous governments had shown a willingness to take a look at the issue, while research has been carried out by private citizens or groups who long to see rail lines or yards to be replaced by homes, parks and active transportation paths or transit routes.

In recent times, then-NDP premier Greg Selinger budgeted $400,000 for a short-lived task force headed up by former Quebec premier Jean Charest in 2016. The NDP was voted out that year, and then Tory-premier Brian Pallister’s government cancelled the study.

In 2015, businessman and rail enthusiast Art DeFehr wrote a position paper in favour of relocation. Based on comments by a Canadian National Railway Co. executive, he estimated it would cost about $1 billion to move rail lines, which would free up about $300 million in land.

Three years later, a citizens group, which included former federal Liberal cabinet minister Lloyd Axworthy, sought to restart a study of the Canadian Pacific Kansas City Ltd. yards that divide the North End, downtown and other neighbourhoods.

The group was formally known as the Rail Yard Relocation Project.

Axworthy has been appointed to lead the current NDP government’s study, which is expected to take two years. The government set aside $200,000 in April’s budget.

The topic resurfaced in April 2023, after a train derailment on a rail overpass closed a stretch of McPhillips Street north of Logan Avenue. At the time, then-Progressive Conservative premier Heather Stefanson said she was willing to discuss relocation with Mayor Scott Gillingham, whose 2022 campaign included a pledge to support incremental relocation opportunities.

The Tories were voted out about seven months later.

In a year-end interview with the Free Press in December, Premier Wab Kinew said he wanted to study the feasibility and cost of incremental steps to move rail yards and tracks out of the city.

He hosted a news conference next to the CPKC rail yards Tuesday to announce Axworthy’s appointment. Axworthy said his goal is to build consensus during talks with governments, rail companies, communities and others.

“Evaluating the feasibility of relocating railway infrastructure is an enormously complex matter and the magnitude of the challenges should never be underestimated,” Stephen wrote in an email.

“A comprehensive study that considers all factors would be required to evaluate the feasibility of relocating rail infrastructure without compromising safety, essential rail service to customers, capacity for future growth, and also capture the full costs, which will be significant.”

A CN Rail spokesperson said the company “will work collaboratively” with the province.

The word “billions” has been used to put a rough estimate on the cost of moving rail lines and yards out of the city.

While he is concerned about the potential overall price tag, Kinew said there is also a cost to maintaining the status quo.

“The only way we’d be able to proceed is with buy-in from all levels of government,” he said.

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Mike Pyle, chair, Business Council of Manitoba, speaks during the press conference.

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Mike Pyle, chair, Business Council of Manitoba, speaks during the press conference.

Kinew described the CPKC rail yards as a divide between the North End, downtown and other neighbourhoods. He also mentioned yards in St. Boniface and Transcona, and a spur line that leads to the North End Water Pollution Control Centre at 2230 Main St.

“What we’re going to be asking Dr. Axworthy to consider is what are some bite-size rail relocation projects that we might take on in the next few years that could maybe deliver some exciting near-term results, and what is that longer vision for the future of the province and the capital region,” he said, noting bigger aspects could take a decade or two.

Axworthy, who has been in contact with Transport Minister Anita Anand, said the study will look at rail safety and risk scenarios, such as derailments of trains that haul hazardous goods, in urban areas.

Axworthy said his conversations will include Manitoba’s Liberal, Conservative and NDP MPs, and former Quebec premier Jean Charest, who was hired by then-NDP premier Greg Selinger to lead a rail relocation task force in 2016. The provincial Tories scrapped the task force after winning the election that year.

The discussion about relocation escalated in 2023, following a derailment of tanker cars above the McPhillips Street underpass, and the indefinite closure of the decaying Arlington Street Bridge, which crosses the CPKC yards.

“If you think about the thousands of acres of rail that exist within the city of Winnipeg, it really does create a lot of land development opportunities for everyone, not just government.”– Kathleen BlueSky, CEO of Treaty One Nation

Mayor Scott Gillingham welcomed the study, which he hopes will identify potential funding sources for relocation, and potential impacts on rail operations, jobs and city infrastructure.

Gillingham said some unused or little-used spur lines could be decommissioned to make way for housing or active transportation paths.

“I think we can look at incremental steps,” said the mayor, who was unable to attend the news conference due to meetings related to the hiring of Winnipeg’s next police chief.

The Business Council of Manitoba, Social Planning Council of Winnipeg and Treaty One Nation were invited to speak in support of the study at the news conference.

Mike Pyle, chair of the business council, called on governments, railroads, the private sector and community to work together.

Rail relocation decades-long subject of discussion

While the subject of rail relocation has been around for decades in Winnipeg, a train derailment and the closure of the Arlington Bridge in 2023 set the wheels in motion for the study commissioned by the Manitoba government.

Previous governments have shown a willingness to take a look at the issue, while research has been carried out by private citizens or groups who long to see rail lines or yards to be replaced with homes, parks and active transportation paths or transit routes.

In recent times, then-NDP premier Greg Selinger budgeted $400,000 for a short-lived task force headed up by former Quebec premier Jean Charest in 2016. The NDP was voted out that year, and then Tory-premier Brian Pallister’s government cancelled the study.

In 2015, businessman and rail enthusiast Art DeFehr wrote a position paper in favour of relocation. Based on comments by a Canadian National Railway Co. executive, he estimated it would cost about $1 billion to move rail lines, which would free up about $300 million in land.

Three years later, a citizens group, which included former federal Liberal cabinet minister Lloyd Axworthy, sought to restart a study of the Canadian Pacific Kansas City Ltd. yards that divide the North End, downtown and other neighbourhoods.

The group was formally known as the Rail Yard Relocation Project.

Axworthy has been appointed to lead the current NDP government’s study, which is expected to take two years. The government set aside $200,000 in April’s budget.

The topic resurfaced in April 2023, after a train derailment on a rail overpass closed a stretch of McPhillips Street north of Logan Avenue. At the time, then-Progressive Conservative premier Heather Stefanson said she was willing to discuss relocation with Mayor Scott Gillingham, whose 2022 campaign included a pledge to support incremental relocation opportunities.

The Tories were voted out about seven months later.

In a year-end interview with the Free Press in December, Premier Wab Kinew said he wanted to study the feasibility and cost of incremental steps to move rail yards and lines out of the city.

He hosted a news conference next to the CPKC rail yards Tuesday to announce Axworthy’s appointment. Axworthy said his goal is to build consensus during talks with governments, rail companies, communities and others.

“Collectively, we can improve on our strength as a logistics hub, and move to a more efficient and environmentally sustainable transportation system, while vastly improving our city on every level,” he said.

Social planning council executive director Kate Kehler is part of a coalition that is advocating for relocation. Converted land could be used to build a “complete community,” with greenways and active transportation, she said.

Coalition research found 75 per cent of Winnipeg residents live within 800 metres of a rail line. The city has 240 rail yard crossings, which affect planning and development, said Kehler.

“If you’ve got those in your way, you have a hard time actually envisioning anything different,” she said.

Relocation would present an opportunity for land reclamation, said Kathleen BlueSky, CEO of Treaty One Nation, which includes seven First Nations.

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Axworthy said he is “fairly optimistic” the study will produce “good conversations” with rail company executives. The study will include public consultations.

MIKE DEAL / FREE PRESS

Axworthy said he is “fairly optimistic” the study will produce “good conversations” with rail company executives. The study will include public consultations.

“If you think about the thousands of acres of rail that exist within the city of Winnipeg, it really does create a lot of land development opportunities for everyone, not just government,” she said.

The Tories said Kinew has raised the issue of railway relocation to distract from problems his government wants to avoid talking about.

“It’s another total distraction by this premier and this government from his failings and from what’s been happening in the last year since they took power,” interim leader Wayne Ewasko said late Tuesday.

“We’ve got some major things that Manitobans are waiting to be addressed,” he said, pointing to a shortage of classroom space, retail crime and cancelled surgeries.

— With files from Joyanne Pursaga and Carol Sanders

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